1 00:00:31,970 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:38,819 --> 00:00:35,579 now your electrifying hosts of exploring 3 00:00:40,850 --> 00:00:38,829 the bizarre Timothy Beckley and team 4 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:40,860 sports 5 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:45,370 ham ham much really making a racket with 6 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:49,059 that lawnmower o'clock in the morning or 7 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:52,290 guest of our friends here in Australia 8 00:00:59,039 --> 00:00:56,290 did they ask you to help them out but no 9 00:01:02,249 --> 00:00:59,049 no I'm trying to see if I can duplicate 10 00:01:04,679 --> 00:01:02,259 one of their softer net the saltiness 11 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:04,689 board early version of the top their 12 00:01:11,219 --> 00:01:07,119 whole phenomena rather crude once I 13 00:01:13,950 --> 00:01:11,229 would say did did they get their point 14 00:01:16,980 --> 00:01:13,960 across and you really think that they 15 00:01:19,710 --> 00:01:16,990 were made by an alien intelligence I'm 16 00:01:22,050 --> 00:01:19,720 not an expert but our guest tonight from 17 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:22,060 the other side of the world is it's 18 00:01:28,889 --> 00:01:25,200 something I hope we can get some answers 19 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:28,899 I would hope so is you're really making 20 00:01:33,090 --> 00:01:31,090 quite a racket here you might you might 21 00:01:33,779 --> 00:01:33,100 wake the kangaroo either they don't want 22 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:33,789 that to happen 23 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:36,850 let's get back to K Co our radio studio 24 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:39,310 well we could do our research and keep 25 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:46,040 all right this is exploring the bazaar 26 00:01:53,140 --> 00:01:49,200 I'm Tim Schwartz I'm starting the show 27 00:01:57,020 --> 00:01:53,150 right now because Tim Beckley's having a 28 00:02:00,170 --> 00:01:57,030 little problem getting online but we 29 00:02:02,630 --> 00:02:00,180 should have him hopefully later on in 30 00:02:06,290 --> 00:02:02,640 the program but we'll just get right 31 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:06,300 into it then and introduce our guest 32 00:02:14,270 --> 00:02:10,140 Cheryl gotshall now Cheryl is a return 33 00:02:17,420 --> 00:02:14,280 visitor to our show and just really 34 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:17,430 absolutely happy to have us have her 35 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:20,370 with us now Cheryl was born in Brisbane 36 00:02:25,790 --> 00:02:23,130 Australia but at an early lay age lived 37 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:25,800 on a cattle station in country 38 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:28,290 Queensland where as a child she often 39 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:30,570 looked at the stars like a lot of us and 40 00:02:35,450 --> 00:02:33,810 wondered if there was other life out 41 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:35,460 there in the universe now in her teenage 42 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:37,410 years she developed an interest in the 43 00:02:43,130 --> 00:02:40,410 paranormal and in 1988 she became an 44 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:43,140 active UFO investigator for the Brisbane 45 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:46,350 based organization UFO research 46 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Queensland and has since held two terms 47 00:02:55,970 --> 00:02:53,010 as president for a total of 24 years so 48 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:55,980 soon after joining the UFO arc you 49 00:03:01,160 --> 00:02:58,050 Cheryl had her own close encounter with 50 00:03:03,860 --> 00:03:01,170 the ax commonly described grey aliens 51 00:03:05,449 --> 00:03:03,870 appearing to her in her home and this 52 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:05,459 was followed by the development of a 53 00:03:10,070 --> 00:03:08,130 s-serious ten year illness during which 54 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:10,080 time she experienced a near-death 55 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:13,650 experience on body experiences and other 56 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:16,530 mystical paranormal and psychic 57 00:03:20,750 --> 00:03:18,750 phenomena her quest for what was 58 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:20,760 happening to her litter on the path to 59 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:23,130 shamanism and the understanding that 60 00:03:28,790 --> 00:03:26,010 these vents were an invitation but more 61 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:28,800 importantly an initiation into other 62 00:03:34,130 --> 00:03:31,530 realms populated by a variety of beans 63 00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:34,140 her personal experiences catapulted her 64 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:36,239 into the world of shamanism and she 65 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:39,060 which you know uses and teaches shamanic 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:41,730 practices now in 1992 67 00:03:45,620 --> 00:03:43,890 Cheryl also established the first close 68 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:45,630 encounter support group in Brisbane 69 00:03:51,770 --> 00:03:48,930 after Budd Hopkins spoke for the first 70 00:03:53,630 --> 00:03:51,780 time at a conference there so now while 71 00:03:55,850 --> 00:03:53,640 working as the dedicated researcher of 72 00:03:56,450 --> 00:03:55,860 the UFO mystery for 31 years 73 00:03:58,790 --> 00:03:56,460 Cher 74 00:04:01,850 --> 00:03:58,800 organizes and speaks at monthly UFO 75 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:01,860 meetings for UFO research Queensland and 76 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:03,930 addition she is a member of the 77 00:04:10,820 --> 00:04:07,170 International Association for near-death 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:10,830 studies and and hosts monthly meetings 79 00:04:15,860 --> 00:04:13,770 and explores the afterlife now Cheryl is 80 00:04:18,830 --> 00:04:15,870 a regular writer for the Australian 81 00:04:22,850 --> 00:04:18,840 bimonthly publication UFO encounter I 82 00:04:25,820 --> 00:04:22,860 think that it's probably the the last 83 00:04:28,460 --> 00:04:25,830 remaining english written UFO magazine 84 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:28,470 out there and also the UFO truth 85 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:31,280 magazine published in the UK the 86 00:04:36,350 --> 00:04:33,150 beautiful truth magazines that still 87 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:36,360 being published oh yes it is yeah but 88 00:04:43,940 --> 00:04:38,880 I'm no longer writing purely because I 89 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:43,950 just don't have the time basically I can 90 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:47,280 understand that well so thank you for 91 00:04:51,460 --> 00:04:49,170 being with us it's it's always great to 92 00:04:53,810 --> 00:04:51,470 have you on exploring the bizarre oh 93 00:04:58,250 --> 00:04:53,820 thank you very much I appreciate being 94 00:05:00,590 --> 00:04:58,260 us back yeah no problem well and and I 95 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:00,600 hope that that you're doing well I mean 96 00:05:06,350 --> 00:05:04,110 I know that the huge fires that they 97 00:05:10,330 --> 00:05:06,360 were having there in Australia were you 98 00:05:13,130 --> 00:05:10,340 know not close to you but you know 99 00:05:15,170 --> 00:05:13,140 people see that in the news and you know 100 00:05:19,010 --> 00:05:15,180 they're like oh my gosh it was you know 101 00:05:20,900 --> 00:05:19,020 is anywhere near you I know what you 102 00:05:24,350 --> 00:05:20,910 made Bentham there was still plenty of 103 00:05:26,330 --> 00:05:24,360 smoke to go around oh yeah I know that's 104 00:05:28,130 --> 00:05:26,340 like you know here in the Midwest 105 00:05:31,130 --> 00:05:28,140 you know we'd a lot of thunderstorms and 106 00:05:33,710 --> 00:05:31,140 and tornadoes and you know I'll have 107 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:33,720 people who will you know see like oh my 108 00:05:38,180 --> 00:05:35,850 gosh there was I saw there was a tornado 109 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:38,190 in New Mexico are you all right I live 110 00:05:44,830 --> 00:05:44,160 in Indiana yeah that's that's quite a 111 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:44,840 ways away 112 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:49,410 alright so hopefully Tim Beckley he's 113 00:05:56,060 --> 00:05:53,520 he's he's he's writing asking where 114 00:05:59,540 --> 00:05:56,070 everybody is I don't know if I think 115 00:06:02,810 --> 00:05:59,550 that Tina's trying to work it to get him 116 00:06:06,409 --> 00:06:02,820 online but let's let's start Cheryl now 117 00:06:09,350 --> 00:06:06,419 I know that Tim really wanted to talk 118 00:06:10,780 --> 00:06:09,360 about the the famous or possibly the 119 00:06:13,330 --> 00:06:10,790 infamous 120 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:13,340 Tulley UFO nests that's something that 121 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:17,170 has fascinated him for a long time so 122 00:06:24,159 --> 00:06:20,450 why don't you let our audience know just 123 00:06:26,740 --> 00:06:24,169 a little bit about what the tele UFO 124 00:06:30,370 --> 00:06:26,750 nest were sure sure 125 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:30,380 well I guess them there are a whole lot 126 00:06:34,770 --> 00:06:31,970 of incidents that occurred around the 127 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:34,780 time in 1966 but this was one that 128 00:06:41,740 --> 00:06:38,720 really grabs people's attention it 129 00:06:46,540 --> 00:06:41,750 occurred in Tully on the 19th of January 130 00:06:48,250 --> 00:06:46,550 in 1966 and it was at 9 a.m. and what 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:48,260 happened entirely and let me just 132 00:06:52,420 --> 00:06:50,810 explain Tully is 1,500 kilometers north 133 00:06:54,970 --> 00:06:52,430 of where I am in Brisbane and that's 134 00:06:58,990 --> 00:06:54,980 about you know been 18 Drive 18 hour at 135 00:07:01,840 --> 00:06:59,000 drive on the roads up north so it's in 136 00:07:04,510 --> 00:07:01,850 it's in Far North Queensland and in a 137 00:07:07,719 --> 00:07:04,520 very tropical zone but the actual 138 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:07,729 incident which by the way I have to say 139 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:10,790 also I'd like to give some credit to a 140 00:07:15,610 --> 00:07:13,130 UFO researcher he's now passed on and 141 00:07:18,730 --> 00:07:15,620 her name was Claire Noble and Claire was 142 00:07:22,690 --> 00:07:18,740 also went on to help one of the 143 00:07:25,690 --> 00:07:22,700 witnesses collect more information and 144 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:25,700 document further further source of myths 145 00:07:30,969 --> 00:07:28,250 that were found on his property but this 146 00:07:34,060 --> 00:07:30,979 this actually started with a gentleman 147 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:34,070 called George Pedley and he was a banana 148 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:36,890 farmer at a place called urema near the 149 00:07:42,340 --> 00:07:40,400 town of Tully and so at 9:00 a.m. on 150 00:07:44,710 --> 00:07:42,350 that day he was driving his tractor 151 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:44,720 across the property of his neighbors 152 00:07:51,670 --> 00:07:47,330 cane farm and his neighbor his neighbor 153 00:07:54,250 --> 00:07:51,680 was called Albert penny see anyway the 154 00:07:56,890 --> 00:07:54,260 farm track ran alongside location known 155 00:07:59,100 --> 00:07:56,900 as Horseshoe Lagoon and it was called 156 00:08:01,900 --> 00:07:59,110 that due to the shape of the lagoon 157 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:01,910 anyway the lagoon covered about a half 158 00:08:08,050 --> 00:08:04,160 an acre I think that's about 2,000 159 00:08:11,710 --> 00:08:08,060 square meters it was almost right three 160 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:11,720 months of the year on a regular basis it 161 00:08:16,029 --> 00:08:14,210 had little or no bird life around it 162 00:08:18,159 --> 00:08:16,039 maybe an Ibis or two was seeing here or 163 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:18,169 there but anyway in the December the 164 00:08:23,119 --> 00:08:21,770 months before they'd had good rain so by 165 00:08:25,369 --> 00:08:23,129 January when 166 00:08:30,379 --> 00:08:25,379 main incident occurred little goon was 167 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:30,389 half-filled maybe 30 meters across at 168 00:08:35,149 --> 00:08:33,690 its widest point anyway the greater part 169 00:08:37,730 --> 00:08:35,159 of the lagoon was covered with a thick 170 00:08:40,939 --> 00:08:37,740 growth of water reeds whose stems were 171 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:40,949 about half an inch and they protruded 172 00:08:44,710 --> 00:08:42,630 above the water to an average height of 173 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:44,720 about two feet so you've got this big 174 00:08:51,829 --> 00:08:49,130 open area a watery lagoon and Reed's 175 00:08:54,290 --> 00:08:51,839 protruding out at the top of it and the 176 00:08:57,470 --> 00:08:54,300 entire lagoon with green and lush until 177 00:09:00,620 --> 00:08:57,480 the day of that incident so what 178 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:00,630 happened was George was driving his 179 00:09:08,990 --> 00:09:05,850 tractor near as he approached the lagoon 180 00:09:12,410 --> 00:09:09,000 and he heard a noise so he leaned 181 00:09:13,939 --> 00:09:12,420 forward in his seat and listened and he 182 00:09:17,420 --> 00:09:13,949 thought that because he thought the 183 00:09:19,460 --> 00:09:17,430 motor was misfiring anyway and he almost 184 00:09:21,340 --> 00:09:19,470 immediately heard a hissing sound so 185 00:09:24,110 --> 00:09:21,350 he's got his head down listening to this 186 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:24,120 so he initially thought I what I was 187 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:26,490 punctured and it was leaking air but 188 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:30,930 then to his astonishment he saw a large 189 00:09:36,980 --> 00:09:34,370 saucer shape rise from the lagoon and 190 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:36,990 George was facing the object with his 191 00:09:41,179 --> 00:09:38,970 back to the Sun so he had a clear 192 00:09:43,189 --> 00:09:41,189 unimpeded view of it nothing was shown 193 00:09:44,569 --> 00:09:43,199 no Sun like so much on his eyes nothing 194 00:09:47,809 --> 00:09:44,579 was being misinterpreted he was getting 195 00:09:48,319 --> 00:09:47,819 a good close clear view of what he was 196 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:48,329 seeing 197 00:09:54,590 --> 00:09:50,970 and this saucer shaped object moved 198 00:09:58,639 --> 00:09:54,600 directly upwards for approximately 60 199 00:10:02,059 --> 00:09:58,649 feet it tilted slightly and then it 200 00:10:05,059 --> 00:10:02,069 veered off in the southwest at a really 201 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:05,069 great speed now the event the entire 202 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:06,810 event only took about four to five 203 00:10:11,269 --> 00:10:08,610 seconds but if you count out five 204 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:11,279 seconds and imagine this object rising 205 00:10:14,749 --> 00:10:13,110 up in front of you to about 60 feet 206 00:10:18,110 --> 00:10:14,759 talking slightly and then just taking 207 00:10:19,879 --> 00:10:18,120 off you can still imagine that you can 208 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:19,889 get a you can really eyeball what you're 209 00:10:22,730 --> 00:10:21,300 seeing in front of you because when 210 00:10:25,819 --> 00:10:22,740 you're seeing something spectacular like 211 00:10:27,829 --> 00:10:25,829 that your your mind is taking a lot more 212 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:27,839 information that it ordinarily would 213 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:30,000 because this is something so vastly 214 00:10:36,780 --> 00:10:34,800 unusual you know anyway George estimated 215 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:36,790 the distance of the object from him 216 00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:40,240 was only about 22 meters so he got a 217 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:43,120 good look at it and he described it as 218 00:10:50,610 --> 00:10:47,110 about 25 feet in diameter diameter about 219 00:10:54,180 --> 00:10:50,620 nine feet thick in the center silvery 220 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:54,190 gray and had a really sharp outline so 221 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:56,170 he jumps from his tractor runs across 222 00:11:00,420 --> 00:10:58,330 the lagoon and pushing his way through 223 00:11:04,110 --> 00:11:00,430 six to seven foot tall sword grass on 224 00:11:06,390 --> 00:11:04,120 the lagoons edge and he immediately sees 225 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:06,400 in the middle of the reeds a large 226 00:11:12,780 --> 00:11:10,510 circular area devoid of reeds and then 227 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:12,790 he further saw near the edge of the 228 00:11:19,350 --> 00:11:15,760 still slowly swirling water a patch of 229 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:19,360 giant water couch grass and people might 230 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:20,770 not be aware of this it was about a 231 00:11:26,190 --> 00:11:23,830 square yard of which had apparently been 232 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:26,200 clipped short and the clippings were 233 00:11:33,210 --> 00:11:30,250 removed anyway he returns to his tractor 234 00:11:36,330 --> 00:11:33,220 and he restarts the motor and he goes on 235 00:11:39,210 --> 00:11:36,340 his way then later that morning he came 236 00:11:41,580 --> 00:11:39,220 back past the lagoon and on further 237 00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:41,590 inspection he sees for the first time 238 00:11:48,210 --> 00:11:44,350 the floating mass of reeds now on the 239 00:11:50,370 --> 00:11:48,220 surface of the lagoon and the reeds were 240 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:50,380 radially distributed in an Otis Lee 241 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:53,920 anti-clockwise manner like like the crop 242 00:11:59,250 --> 00:11:55,570 circles that you were used to hearing 243 00:12:02,970 --> 00:11:59,260 about in the UK right and the reeds in 244 00:12:04,230 --> 00:12:02,980 the nest and as it had come to be call 245 00:12:06,270 --> 00:12:04,240 which what weight they got called here 246 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:06,280 in Queensland anyway they were still 247 00:12:11,550 --> 00:12:08,770 green just like the other reeds in the 248 00:12:14,130 --> 00:12:11,560 lagoon and after the object had risen 249 00:12:16,410 --> 00:12:14,140 the reeds were still green but when 250 00:12:19,770 --> 00:12:16,420 George returned in the afternoon they 251 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:19,780 appeared to be dry and browned off which 252 00:12:24,330 --> 00:12:22,330 is really interesting because it was 253 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:24,340 only about like twelve hours later and 254 00:12:30,450 --> 00:12:29,110 they've completely died off anyway so by 255 00:12:32,270 --> 00:12:30,460 this time George thinks well I better 256 00:12:34,830 --> 00:12:32,280 tell someone else what's going on here 257 00:12:36,180 --> 00:12:34,840 so I mean I think I would have told him 258 00:12:38,010 --> 00:12:36,190 a bit earlier so you're getting away 259 00:12:42,090 --> 00:12:38,020 goes off to alert the property owner at 260 00:12:44,490 --> 00:12:42,100 Albert Panisse II so mid-afternoon they 261 00:12:46,950 --> 00:12:44,500 both returned to the lagoon which by the 262 00:12:47,970 --> 00:12:46,960 way was about one of the quarter miles 263 00:12:50,910 --> 00:12:47,980 from the penny 264 00:12:53,310 --> 00:12:50,920 see house anyway Albert decides to swim 265 00:12:55,220 --> 00:12:53,320 around Lagoon and he discovers that he 266 00:12:57,990 --> 00:12:55,230 could swim underneath the massive reeds 267 00:13:00,750 --> 00:12:58,000 since they are no longer attached to the 268 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:00,760 bottom of the lagoon and he finds that 269 00:13:07,650 --> 00:13:04,810 the water is quite clear anyway the man 270 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:07,660 of reeds is now floating on the water's 271 00:13:15,030 --> 00:13:11,290 surface and that matches about 18 inches 272 00:13:18,270 --> 00:13:15,040 thick now the other thing that some 273 00:13:20,340 --> 00:13:18,280 people may not be aware of is that when 274 00:13:22,890 --> 00:13:20,350 they inspected the surrounding area they 275 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:22,900 found markings leading from the lagoon 276 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:25,210 to the loose ploughed soil in the 277 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:27,610 adjoining paddock and these were 278 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:29,410 described as being about 3 to 4 inches 279 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:32,890 long and approximately 2 inches across 280 00:13:39,030 --> 00:13:35,650 at the widest point and they were spaced 281 00:13:41,430 --> 00:13:39,040 about 12 inches apart and in a direct 282 00:13:44,780 --> 00:13:41,440 line as if one one's walking you know 283 00:13:49,170 --> 00:13:44,790 and one immediately behind the other 284 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:49,180 so anyway samples of the reeds from both 285 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:51,130 inside and outside of the nests were 286 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:52,810 taken and they were sent to the 287 00:13:57,870 --> 00:13:54,850 University of Queensland in Brisbane to 288 00:14:01,230 --> 00:13:57,880 check for radiation they all proved 289 00:14:03,630 --> 00:14:01,240 negative except for one exception which 290 00:14:06,030 --> 00:14:03,640 was the sample taken from the center of 291 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:06,040 the nest that showed a small increase in 292 00:14:11,370 --> 00:14:09,130 the beater range but it was so small it 293 00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:11,380 was only equivalent to one percent of 294 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:13,600 the readin reading taken from a dial on 295 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:15,610 a wristwatch sites you know that could 296 00:14:19,830 --> 00:14:17,650 be easily explained by a variation in 297 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:19,840 the normal background radiation who 298 00:14:24,990 --> 00:14:21,760 knows really but they thought there was 299 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:25,000 nothing there that was outstanding so 300 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:26,890 anyway they had further tests and this 301 00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:27,910 is where it gets a bit interesting 302 00:14:33,810 --> 00:14:31,390 because they wanted to determine why the 303 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:33,820 reads had rapidly browned off within a 304 00:14:39,690 --> 00:14:37,210 12 hour period and the results were that 305 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:39,700 the reads died from natural processes 306 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:42,550 probably hastened by submersion due to 307 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:44,710 flooding but there'd be no flooding 308 00:14:50,460 --> 00:14:48,670 Listeria the so anyway whoever was doing 309 00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:50,470 the the samples they dumped him in the 310 00:14:57,540 --> 00:14:55,600 bin after that and but there was no 311 00:14:59,340 --> 00:14:57,550 explanation given as to why all the 312 00:15:01,440 --> 00:14:59,350 other regions are going remain green and 313 00:15:03,870 --> 00:15:01,450 healthy so 314 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:03,880 the people invest from my organization 315 00:15:08,670 --> 00:15:06,490 UFO research Queensland which in those 316 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:08,680 days was called the Queensland Flying 317 00:15:15,660 --> 00:15:12,910 Saucer Research Bureau they decided to 318 00:15:18,060 --> 00:15:15,670 do their own tests and they asked Albert 319 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:18,070 to take water from alligator add a 320 00:15:22,770 --> 00:15:20,770 quantity of fresh green reeds complete 321 00:15:25,950 --> 00:15:22,780 with roots and completely submerge them 322 00:15:27,450 --> 00:15:25,960 in a large drum and then the drum was 323 00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:27,460 then left standing on the banks of the 324 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:29,680 lagoon in full sunlight and they 325 00:15:36,150 --> 00:15:33,370 examined it daily it was three full days 326 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:36,160 before the first signs of browning 327 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:38,650 became evident and seven days passed 328 00:15:45,180 --> 00:15:40,570 before the decaying process became 329 00:15:49,140 --> 00:15:45,190 obvious so it seems that those reeds 330 00:15:52,950 --> 00:15:49,150 that had browned off so quickly had done 331 00:15:55,020 --> 00:15:52,960 so in response to something even though 332 00:15:56,970 --> 00:15:55,030 the the tests at the University of 333 00:15:59,640 --> 00:15:56,980 Queensland said you know they basically 334 00:16:02,370 --> 00:15:59,650 discarded discard it and said oh it's 335 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:02,380 just just natural just just died because 336 00:16:06,780 --> 00:16:04,690 I was submersed in flooded water which 337 00:16:10,070 --> 00:16:06,790 there was you know which didn't happen 338 00:16:13,310 --> 00:16:10,080 to the rest of the reeds right so 339 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:13,320 unfortunately for Albert like they were 340 00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:18,850 his um his farm was completely overrun 341 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:21,910 by the public and other people wanting 342 00:16:31,380 --> 00:16:26,770 to come and investigate you you could 343 00:16:33,510 --> 00:16:31,390 tell from the newspaper cuttings all 344 00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:33,520 over now you know I miss the first few 345 00:16:39,450 --> 00:16:37,390 bits of the the show whether I remember 346 00:16:43,700 --> 00:16:39,460 when this case broke but were there any 347 00:16:48,020 --> 00:16:43,710 UFO sightings associated with this nest 348 00:16:52,590 --> 00:16:48,030 yes well that's where he where Albert 349 00:16:55,830 --> 00:16:52,600 actually saw a UFO rising from above 350 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:55,840 where the nest was and and to check 351 00:17:00,630 --> 00:16:57,730 slightly and flying off at a fast speed 352 00:17:01,890 --> 00:17:00,640 but his wasn't the only case but I can 353 00:17:03,930 --> 00:17:01,900 tell you a bit more about that in a 354 00:17:07,620 --> 00:17:03,940 minute but yes the other interesting 355 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:07,630 part of this was that after the meteor 356 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:09,610 had published the first lot of botanical 357 00:17:15,170 --> 00:17:13,090 fightings findings the rwf claimed to 358 00:17:18,140 --> 00:17:15,180 have also done testing but and they 359 00:17:20,450 --> 00:17:18,150 found similar results with the addition 360 00:17:22,940 --> 00:17:20,460 that the nest could have been by caused 361 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:22,950 by so-called whirly winds well you know 362 00:17:29,420 --> 00:17:27,510 it wasn't obviously so the the main 363 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:29,430 incident happened on the Wednesday 364 00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:31,890 the following Monday the our double AF 365 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:33,600 makes the statement that the nests was 366 00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:36,930 most possibly caused by a hovering our 367 00:17:42,470 --> 00:17:40,080 double AF helicopter but then the 368 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:42,480 following day the IAF states there are 369 00:17:46,730 --> 00:17:44,910 no Force Air Force helicopters in the 370 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:46,740 area so they weren't getting their 371 00:17:52,010 --> 00:17:47,520 stories straight 372 00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:52,020 basically usual cover-up your usual 373 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:54,240 cover-up but there's much water more 374 00:17:59,120 --> 00:17:55,770 cover-up that went on with this case 375 00:18:01,520 --> 00:17:59,130 because because of the increase in 376 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:01,530 activity increase and at the time the 377 00:18:08,330 --> 00:18:06,000 UFO research Queensland decided to place 378 00:18:10,550 --> 00:18:08,340 to magnetic monitoring devices fitted 379 00:18:12,650 --> 00:18:10,560 with cameras in two locations in 380 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:12,660 Queensland and one of them was at Tully 381 00:18:19,610 --> 00:18:17,730 near the lagoon so the apparently what 382 00:18:21,650 --> 00:18:19,620 happened was if that device was 383 00:18:24,380 --> 00:18:21,660 triggered it registered that it had 384 00:18:27,770 --> 00:18:24,390 recorded something it was posted to 385 00:18:29,540 --> 00:18:27,780 Kodak in Melbourne that film 14 days 386 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:29,550 later the sender received a letter from 387 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:32,130 Kodak stating that the film case had 388 00:18:41,150 --> 00:18:36,960 arrived but it was empty you know that 389 00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:41,160 before and the other cases many other 390 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:43,860 cases like that of missing films and 391 00:18:49,910 --> 00:18:46,410 photos and I've just got a couple here 392 00:18:52,550 --> 00:18:49,920 that I've gathered in nineteen nineteen 393 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:52,560 fifty-three nine photos were taken at 394 00:18:58,730 --> 00:18:55,290 Port Moresby of the UFOs in Papua New 395 00:19:00,440 --> 00:18:58,740 Guinea of a UFO the photographer was mr. 396 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:00,450 Drury and some people might know this as 397 00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:03,570 the Drury film it was a very senior 398 00:19:07,490 --> 00:19:04,710 official of the Civil Aviation 399 00:19:09,260 --> 00:19:07,500 Department and the five best shots that 400 00:19:14,180 --> 00:19:09,270 he took were lost by the authorities 401 00:19:17,030 --> 00:19:14,190 lost in inverted commas in then in 1954 402 00:19:19,340 --> 00:19:17,040 two hundred photos were taken with both 403 00:19:21,860 --> 00:19:19,350 film and still cameras by three young 404 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:21,870 men who were driving near the West and 405 00:19:25,940 --> 00:19:23,280 South Australian border and were pasted 406 00:19:28,820 --> 00:19:25,950 for 45 minutes by a UFO they used all 407 00:19:31,460 --> 00:19:28,830 the film they had with five cameras the 408 00:19:34,430 --> 00:19:31,470 film was borrowed by the borrowed again 409 00:19:36,370 --> 00:19:34,440 in inverted commas by the IAF and of 410 00:19:39,860 --> 00:19:36,380 course they were never returned and 411 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:39,870 there's two two other cases one in 1961 412 00:19:44,889 --> 00:19:42,450 a UFO was observed in brilliant sunshine 413 00:19:47,269 --> 00:19:44,899 by scores of North Queenslanders and 414 00:19:51,909 --> 00:19:47,279 photographed by a journalist from the 415 00:19:55,460 --> 00:19:51,919 Cannes Post newspaper so he said a far 416 00:19:58,279 --> 00:19:55,470 five three five by three negative was 417 00:20:00,350 --> 00:19:58,289 sent to Kodak of Melbourne by a senior 418 00:20:02,149 --> 00:20:00,360 astronomer who he sent it to from the 419 00:20:04,639 --> 00:20:02,159 Mount Stromlo Observatory in Canberra 420 00:20:07,850 --> 00:20:04,649 and not surprisingly they denied every 421 00:20:11,899 --> 00:20:07,860 receiving it - of course yeah and then 422 00:20:13,789 --> 00:20:11,909 in the last case it was in 1965 several 423 00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:13,799 photographs were taken by a pilot from 424 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:16,080 the onset airline over Bougainville reef 425 00:20:21,409 --> 00:20:18,960 in the solomon sea enroute to Port 426 00:20:24,110 --> 00:20:21,419 Moresby from Townsville which is in 427 00:20:26,899 --> 00:20:24,120 North in Queensland his aircraft was 428 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:26,909 being pasted by UFO on returning to 429 00:20:32,570 --> 00:20:29,970 Townsville the pilot was met on arrival 430 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:32,580 and flown directly to Canberra with his 431 00:20:38,539 --> 00:20:36,480 camera and the aircraft's black box the 432 00:20:40,519 --> 00:20:38,549 radio man at the Townsville Airport was 433 00:20:42,860 --> 00:20:40,529 transferred to Darwin the following week 434 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:42,870 but I can't find any documentation 435 00:20:47,090 --> 00:20:44,370 standing what happened to the pilot 436 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:47,100 after that but anyway these are some 437 00:20:52,190 --> 00:20:50,130 case some examples of not only the Tully 438 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:52,200 film but also other you know it was 439 00:20:57,889 --> 00:20:53,850 common practice in those days for 440 00:21:01,909 --> 00:20:57,899 photographs and films to be I guess you 441 00:21:04,669 --> 00:21:01,919 know taken and and not returned so that 442 00:21:06,159 --> 00:21:04,679 the IWF could could analyze you know to 443 00:21:09,620 --> 00:21:06,169 see what was going on for themselves 444 00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:09,630 well we had a famous case here a Rex 445 00:21:15,950 --> 00:21:12,799 Heflin who was a I think a county worker 446 00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:15,960 doing some survey work or doing some 447 00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:18,120 road work and he took a series of 448 00:21:23,930 --> 00:21:21,600 photographs in California and Tim Denton 449 00:21:26,450 --> 00:21:23,940 photographs disappear for about a decade 450 00:21:29,950 --> 00:21:26,460 or more and they finally ended up in and 451 00:21:33,919 --> 00:21:29,960 ruffles I think a mailbox 15 years later 452 00:21:35,090 --> 00:21:33,929 right yeah at least at least 20 years 453 00:21:40,909 --> 00:21:35,100 they disappeared 454 00:21:41,580 --> 00:21:40,919 yeah hmm but there's a bit more store a 455 00:21:43,850 --> 00:21:41,590 bit more 456 00:21:47,250 --> 00:21:43,860 story to the colleague Tully case 457 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:47,260 because what there was another thing 458 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:48,970 that happened on the 8th of February 459 00:21:57,930 --> 00:21:54,970 1969 when this device that had been set 460 00:21:59,960 --> 00:21:57,940 up to to be able to monitor you know 461 00:22:02,850 --> 00:21:59,970 anything that was going on in the area 462 00:22:04,919 --> 00:22:02,860 it had be set up in Albert's son's 463 00:22:07,620 --> 00:22:04,929 bedroom I'm guessing it was because it 464 00:22:09,390 --> 00:22:07,630 was the best location to face that 465 00:22:11,269 --> 00:22:09,400 particular area I'm not really sure why 466 00:22:13,769 --> 00:22:11,279 it's not quite clear in our records but 467 00:22:16,620 --> 00:22:13,779 anyway Albert the son Shane he was woken 468 00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:16,630 by the UFO monitoring device which had a 469 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:19,750 buzzer and he turned it off thinking to 470 00:22:23,250 --> 00:22:21,370 tell his father about it at breakfast 471 00:22:25,649 --> 00:22:23,260 but Albert had already gone out the 472 00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:25,659 house earlier and Shane forgot to tell 473 00:22:32,610 --> 00:22:29,919 him until he came home and anyway so as 474 00:22:34,350 --> 00:22:32,620 soon as he found out he Albert gets you 475 00:22:36,659 --> 00:22:34,360 know gets in his tractor and drives out 476 00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:36,669 to the lagoon and discovers a new source 477 00:22:43,370 --> 00:22:40,390 Ernest now this one was 29 and a half 478 00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:43,380 feet in diameter and perfectly circular 479 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,240 there were also reeds floating on the 480 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:48,240 surface again in the clockwise direction 481 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:52,690 and on further inspection another 482 00:22:56,490 --> 00:22:54,610 smaller Ness was discovered at the 483 00:23:00,000 --> 00:22:56,500 extreme north end of the lagoon and that 484 00:23:03,870 --> 00:23:00,010 was 12 feet in diameter and it had all 485 00:23:07,169 --> 00:23:03,880 the characteristics of the larger one so 486 00:23:09,690 --> 00:23:07,179 and then about 25 feet away from the new 487 00:23:13,019 --> 00:23:09,700 nest and about 15 feet above ground 488 00:23:16,019 --> 00:23:13,029 level there's a protruding branch of a 489 00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:16,029 tree and this branch has an area of 490 00:23:20,970 --> 00:23:17,950 leaves about six feet long about two 491 00:23:23,490 --> 00:23:20,980 feet deep and they're scorched and the 492 00:23:25,260 --> 00:23:23,500 leaves are crisp and they're curled up 493 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:25,270 showing signs of browning there were no 494 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:31,090 tracks to or from the tree and so more 495 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:32,770 testing was carried out by the 496 00:23:37,649 --> 00:23:34,570 University of Queensland once again 497 00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:37,659 which concluded that due to the nature 498 00:23:43,889 --> 00:23:41,830 of the specimens tested I'm sorry no 499 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:43,899 that wasn't carried out on on that tree 500 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:46,450 was on the samples from the nest the 501 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:49,630 second nest they said that the nature of 502 00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,520 this specimens tested it would have been 503 00:23:54,780 --> 00:23:53,200 expected that they would still be green 504 00:23:57,060 --> 00:23:54,790 alive but 505 00:24:01,740 --> 00:23:57,070 all the specimens were dead and starting 506 00:24:03,180 --> 00:24:01,750 to decompose so yeah it was just a whole 507 00:24:06,150 --> 00:24:03,190 lot of things didn't add up properly 508 00:24:07,230 --> 00:24:06,160 there was you know there was things 509 00:24:09,860 --> 00:24:07,240 going on in the area 510 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:09,870 it wasn't the only case things went on 511 00:24:16,140 --> 00:24:13,450 just prior and for a while after and I 512 00:24:18,780 --> 00:24:16,150 remember Claire before she passed some 513 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:18,790 years back actually she told me that you 514 00:24:26,220 --> 00:24:21,010 know she collected well over a hundred 515 00:24:28,290 --> 00:24:26,230 cases from the the Tully area of these 516 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:28,300 nests that had been found on the ground 517 00:24:32,730 --> 00:24:30,850 and I'm sure Libby let me interrupt you 518 00:24:34,620 --> 00:24:32,740 here because we have to go to our bottom 519 00:24:36,570 --> 00:24:34,630 of the error break when we come back we 520 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:36,580 will continue our conversation with 521 00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:39,250 Cheryl gotcha on exploring the bizarre 522 00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:52,219 now back to exploring the bazaars with 523 00:24:57,799 --> 00:24:54,809 two of the most electrifying researchers 524 00:25:04,519 --> 00:24:57,809 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy 525 00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:04,529 Rebecca Lee and Kings was right welcome 526 00:25:09,979 --> 00:25:06,600 back to exploring the bazaar our guest 527 00:25:11,749 --> 00:25:09,989 tonight is Cheryl Gaucho and Tim Beck 528 00:25:18,159 --> 00:25:11,759 Lee I'm glad to see that you were able 529 00:25:21,409 --> 00:25:18,169 to get your internet problems solved and 530 00:25:24,379 --> 00:25:21,419 I tell you it's been a difficult three 531 00:25:28,219 --> 00:25:24,389 or four days I haven't even been able to 532 00:25:31,789 --> 00:25:28,229 to eat much in the way of food actually 533 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:31,799 answer not too good you don't have you 534 00:25:37,609 --> 00:25:35,129 don't have the coronavirus do you oh you 535 00:25:49,609 --> 00:25:37,619 know I'm so old Tim I think I might have 536 00:25:51,710 --> 00:25:49,619 the swine flu no all right so what Tim 537 00:25:53,109 --> 00:25:51,720 do you want to do you want to carry on 538 00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:53,119 with the conversation 539 00:26:00,619 --> 00:25:57,679 carry on yeah yeah well you know Cheryl 540 00:26:03,789 --> 00:26:00,629 they seem that UFOs they seem to be 541 00:26:06,159 --> 00:26:03,799 interest that in the floral makeup of 542 00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:06,169 earth maybe they're checking for 543 00:26:10,399 --> 00:26:08,159 radioactivity in the atmosphere or 544 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:10,409 something but you've got cases there in 545 00:26:15,469 --> 00:26:12,570 Australia where these things have come 546 00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:15,479 and apparently even come down and landed 547 00:26:24,889 --> 00:26:19,679 in the tip-top of trees or pretty darn 548 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:24,899 close to it hmm yeah I do think I do 549 00:26:30,289 --> 00:26:26,609 think that they are definitely 550 00:26:33,379 --> 00:26:30,299 interested in our flora and fauna I have 551 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:33,389 had people tell me that they've seen in 552 00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:35,970 the distance UFOs and this is up in 553 00:26:40,849 --> 00:26:38,609 North Queensland again one in one case 554 00:26:43,629 --> 00:26:40,859 was where it was on the ground and these 555 00:26:45,979 --> 00:26:43,639 small beings were sort of walking around 556 00:26:50,539 --> 00:26:45,989 he was quite frightened he was off in 557 00:26:52,220 --> 00:26:50,549 the bush I think he was treating noxious 558 00:26:55,070 --> 00:26:52,230 weeds or something at the time and he 559 00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:55,080 was watching them and they did seem to 560 00:26:59,720 --> 00:26:56,910 be 561 00:27:01,460 --> 00:26:59,730 collecting things off the ground and I 562 00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:01,470 mean we've heard that worldwide that's 563 00:27:05,180 --> 00:27:03,240 that's nothing new you know that I 564 00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:05,190 remember there's a case in the United 565 00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:08,370 States in the 19th Canada actually in 566 00:27:15,220 --> 00:27:12,240 the 1930s where they were they were seen 567 00:27:19,550 --> 00:27:15,230 to be doing this sort of thing too so 568 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:19,560 yes I'm sure they would come here and 569 00:27:24,830 --> 00:27:22,410 just like we would if we were on another 570 00:27:27,860 --> 00:27:24,840 planet we'd be picking up samples to 571 00:27:29,380 --> 00:27:27,870 analyze and test and see what yes we 572 00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:29,390 could make of them too I suppose 573 00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:32,100 well I know one of the first cases that 574 00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:34,590 Budd Hopkins the late abduction 575 00:27:39,470 --> 00:27:36,510 researcher investigated was the case 576 00:27:41,090 --> 00:27:39,480 over in New Jersey where this fellow on 577 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:41,100 the way home from my work happens to a 578 00:27:46,730 --> 00:27:45,330 UFO in question of Stonehenge behind 579 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:46,740 apartment building if that is a 580 00:27:51,470 --> 00:27:49,170 synchronicity it was a craft that had 581 00:27:53,930 --> 00:27:51,480 land it had a couple of tribe tripod 582 00:27:55,460 --> 00:27:53,940 landing gear a couple of aliens came out 583 00:27:57,380 --> 00:27:55,470 and seem to be scooping up the soil 584 00:28:01,310 --> 00:27:57,390 before they disappeared and 585 00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:01,320 timin in your incredible alien 586 00:28:05,780 --> 00:28:04,230 encounters book we talk about a case I 587 00:28:08,810 --> 00:28:05,790 think it's right there in your home 588 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:08,820 state of Indiana where a young fellow so 589 00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:12,450 I saw and photographed a an object that 590 00:28:18,170 --> 00:28:14,550 landed in a tree in his yard or his 591 00:28:19,970 --> 00:28:18,180 neighbor's yard yeah it didn't land of 592 00:28:27,620 --> 00:28:19,980 the trees that were and this was the 593 00:28:32,350 --> 00:28:27,630 1970 67 in Milan Indiana where this UFO 594 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:32,360 which looked like an old-fashioned cow 595 00:28:41,390 --> 00:28:36,810 milk jug was floating past his his 596 00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:41,400 bedroom window kind of like above and 597 00:28:47,330 --> 00:28:45,120 through the trees and the odd thing 598 00:28:49,970 --> 00:28:47,340 about it and he did manage to take a 599 00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:49,980 couple of color 35 millimeter 600 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:52,320 photographs the odd thing about it was 601 00:28:59,180 --> 00:28:57,090 that the next day a lot of branches of 602 00:29:02,480 --> 00:28:59,190 these trees that this thing came close 603 00:29:05,420 --> 00:29:02,490 to had withered and died so I mean very 604 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:05,430 similar to what what had happened to the 605 00:29:13,070 --> 00:29:10,410 reeds there in Tully change 606 00:29:16,270 --> 00:29:13,080 the subject a little bit here what is 607 00:29:19,610 --> 00:29:16,280 with the mysterious pregnancies a 608 00:29:23,660 --> 00:29:19,620 missing pregnancies missing pregnancies 609 00:29:25,580 --> 00:29:23,670 missing pregnancy cases yeah yeah I've 610 00:29:27,620 --> 00:29:25,590 heard a few of those over the years and 611 00:29:31,250 --> 00:29:27,630 and not just in Australia but all around 612 00:29:36,290 --> 00:29:31,260 the world actually and there was a case 613 00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:36,300 here that involved a woman that I've 614 00:29:47,150 --> 00:29:40,500 known for quite a long time and she was 615 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:47,160 working at on the Gold Coast and they 616 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:49,050 were sort of like a lead-up to this okay 617 00:29:52,730 --> 00:29:50,730 it's not just like a suddenly you're 618 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:52,740 pregnant and then you've gotten there's 619 00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:54,450 a whole story around but just to keep it 620 00:29:59,420 --> 00:29:57,120 as brief as I can what happened leading 621 00:30:02,720 --> 00:29:59,430 up to this experience was that she was 622 00:30:04,730 --> 00:30:02,730 driving the same way to and from work 623 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:04,740 every day and that particular knife she 624 00:30:09,410 --> 00:30:07,410 left work about 7:00 p.m. and she was 625 00:30:11,930 --> 00:30:09,420 walking across the carpark towards a car 626 00:30:14,270 --> 00:30:11,940 when she saw the brightest star she had 627 00:30:15,620 --> 00:30:14,280 ever seen anyway it was so bright 628 00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:15,630 beautiful she couldn't take her eyes off 629 00:30:20,690 --> 00:30:18,240 it and for some really weird reason she 630 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:20,700 suddenly became very emotional and she 631 00:30:24,290 --> 00:30:21,770 started to cry 632 00:30:25,970 --> 00:30:24,300 anyway she quickly got into a car she 633 00:30:28,010 --> 00:30:25,980 could see about five other people in the 634 00:30:30,830 --> 00:30:28,020 carpark who also saw this bright light 635 00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:30,840 or stoner and they were commenting on 636 00:30:36,380 --> 00:30:34,320 its brightness as well anyway she drove 637 00:30:38,810 --> 00:30:36,390 out of the car park began a journey home 638 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:38,820 the next thing she remembers is pulling 639 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:40,170 over to the side of the road feeling 640 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:41,970 very disoriented and wondering where the 641 00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:45,450 heck she was and how she got there it 642 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:46,950 took her minutes to get her bearings 643 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:49,050 then she drove home annoyed with herself 644 00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:52,130 for driving in such a confused and and 645 00:30:56,810 --> 00:30:55,110 irresponsible manner she thought anyway 646 00:30:58,820 --> 00:30:56,820 she arrives home she's still quite 647 00:31:01,150 --> 00:30:58,830 emotional she walks inside 648 00:31:03,290 --> 00:31:01,160 husband wants to know where she was 649 00:31:06,350 --> 00:31:03,300 because she was over an hour and a half 650 00:31:08,150 --> 00:31:06,360 late so she's running around checking 651 00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:08,160 the clocks guy oh my gosh you know like 652 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:10,200 that can't be right I've only just left 653 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:11,730 work and he takes me so long to get home 654 00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:13,290 I can't be an hour and a half late but 655 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:16,020 turns out she was but this was just sort 656 00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:17,490 of like the beginning of what was going 657 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:20,220 on to her because after that they 658 00:31:24,270 --> 00:31:22,530 decided to go on a holiday and they're 659 00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:24,280 going to go up to 660 00:31:30,940 --> 00:31:26,870 North Queensland or Central North Mason 661 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:30,950 to do some fossicking anyway before she 662 00:31:38,590 --> 00:31:36,410 went though she she found that she no no 663 00:31:40,060 --> 00:31:38,600 me forget my story straight here she 664 00:31:43,150 --> 00:31:40,070 discovered that she was pregnant that's 665 00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:43,160 right she already had two children and 666 00:31:48,550 --> 00:31:45,440 but she really wanted to have this baby 667 00:31:49,330 --> 00:31:48,560 and but she had concerns that something 668 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:49,340 didn't feel right 669 00:31:54,850 --> 00:31:50,930 she had a terrible feeling that she was 670 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:54,860 going to lose this baby but anyway about 671 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:56,690 two weeks later she developed Sagarika 672 00:32:01,150 --> 00:31:58,250 logical problems thinks she's going to 673 00:32:02,260 --> 00:32:01,160 lose the baby according to the doctor 674 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:02,270 everything was all right and she was 675 00:32:06,730 --> 00:32:04,850 about six weeks pregnant so they decided 676 00:32:12,910 --> 00:32:06,740 to go off in this this fossicking 677 00:32:14,830 --> 00:32:12,920 holiday and so she started to have some 678 00:32:16,540 --> 00:32:14,840 more problems where she thought she 679 00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:16,550 might you know it she was starting to 680 00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:17,990 have a bit of spotting she thought she 681 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,310 might have a miscarriage or something 682 00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,200 anyway but she kept that to herself 683 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:23,120 because she really wanted to go on this 684 00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:24,530 holiday and if I would have done that 685 00:32:30,730 --> 00:32:28,310 but anyway so they took off staying to 686 00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:30,740 motel they were heading towards Cannes 687 00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:32,960 in North North Queensland Far North 688 00:32:37,630 --> 00:32:35,630 Queensland when a husband strangely 689 00:32:42,370 --> 00:32:37,640 decides to take a detour 690 00:32:44,980 --> 00:32:42,380 west and they arrive at a place called 691 00:32:47,970 --> 00:32:44,990 sapphire it's about 4:30 in the 692 00:32:51,580 --> 00:32:47,980 afternoon now this is in 1988 mind you 693 00:32:53,290 --> 00:32:51,590 so as they're driving around looking for 694 00:32:55,330 --> 00:32:53,300 somewhere to stay the husband turns down 695 00:32:59,260 --> 00:32:55,340 a dirt road near quite suddenly with no 696 00:33:02,320 --> 00:32:59,270 warning the car broke down so it's 5:00 697 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:02,330 p.m. in miles from nowhere the husband 698 00:33:05,380 --> 00:33:04,130 starts to tinkering with the engine and 699 00:33:08,740 --> 00:33:05,390 she walks over the hill to see if 700 00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:08,750 there's anything in the area but you 701 00:33:14,050 --> 00:33:10,910 know mate basically could help them so 702 00:33:16,750 --> 00:33:14,060 she sees a sign on a tree and it said 703 00:33:20,940 --> 00:33:16,760 with an arrow saying sunrise cabins this 704 00:33:24,130 --> 00:33:20,950 way so she goes up there she finds a 705 00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:24,140 holiday area it's got I think it's got 706 00:33:28,690 --> 00:33:26,510 caravans and a motel or something and 707 00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:28,700 some some tents that have been set up so 708 00:33:33,330 --> 00:33:31,280 she she books a tent they anyway they 709 00:33:36,580 --> 00:33:33,340 camped there for the night basically 710 00:33:37,420 --> 00:33:36,590 she's there laying in the tent looking 711 00:33:38,890 --> 00:33:37,430 at the flap 712 00:33:42,220 --> 00:33:38,900 of the tendons of the night sky thinking 713 00:33:44,020 --> 00:33:42,230 how beautiful was and suddenly she sees 714 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:44,030 the very bright light and thinks it 715 00:33:49,180 --> 00:33:46,130 looks like the same light or star she 716 00:33:52,180 --> 00:33:49,190 saw previously in the year anyway she's 717 00:33:54,010 --> 00:33:52,190 watching it it's getting closer and then 718 00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:54,020 she sees boomerang-shaped 719 00:33:59,290 --> 00:33:56,240 objects coming out of this slide and her 720 00:34:01,390 --> 00:33:59,300 last thought she said was oh my god if 721 00:34:03,580 --> 00:34:01,400 these know what I think they are then 722 00:34:06,940 --> 00:34:03,590 UFOs are real because I'm wide awake and 723 00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:06,950 I'm really seeing this anyway I mean I 724 00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:08,960 could just put myself in her situation I 725 00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:10,910 could imagine you know what she was 726 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:13,550 going through but anyway she describes 727 00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:16,130 everything then changing she's suddenly 728 00:34:22,090 --> 00:34:19,040 no longer in the tent she has no idea 729 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:22,100 where how she got there and she didn't 730 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:24,650 care either she had absolutely no fear 731 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:27,050 which is some really odd but that's what 732 00:34:30,670 --> 00:34:28,850 happens in some of these cases his close 733 00:34:33,580 --> 00:34:30,680 encounter cases fear just seems to 734 00:34:36,580 --> 00:34:33,590 disappear she finds herself standing on 735 00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:36,590 a deserted street that appeared to be 736 00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:37,550 l-shaped 737 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:38,960 there were no people or cars on this 738 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:41,930 road it was night she's standing under a 739 00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:44,450 lamppost and there's another lamppost on 740 00:34:49,390 --> 00:34:47,260 the site other side of the road anyway 741 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:49,400 at the corner of the street there 742 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:52,250 appears to be a country in western 743 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:54,560 tavern with lots of people and somehow 744 00:34:57,250 --> 00:34:56,690 she knew her husband was in there as 745 00:34:59,470 --> 00:34:57,260 well 746 00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:59,480 so at this stage it seems to me while 747 00:35:03,790 --> 00:35:01,040 she's telling me her story that some 748 00:35:05,230 --> 00:35:03,800 sort of scenario has been set up for her 749 00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:05,240 to be placed there because remember 750 00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:07,910 she's in the outback here okay there's 751 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:09,190 nothing else around 752 00:35:16,570 --> 00:35:13,570 so anyway except for the women lights 753 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:16,580 well yes there could be some of them yes 754 00:35:20,380 --> 00:35:17,690 absolutely 755 00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:20,390 anyway the streets totally deserted and 756 00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,640 - but she knew that she was waiting for 757 00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:25,040 someone she's feeling very excited or 758 00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:28,150 most ecstatic and then a silver vehicle 759 00:35:34,570 --> 00:35:31,760 like a car comes towards her from the 760 00:35:37,090 --> 00:35:34,580 sky and it lands in front of her and she 761 00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:37,100 describes it as having no wheels doors 762 00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:40,670 or roof it seems to hover just slightly 763 00:35:46,450 --> 00:35:43,730 off the ground and in the vehicle were 764 00:35:49,090 --> 00:35:46,460 very four were four very human-like 765 00:35:51,099 --> 00:35:49,100 beings and they're all male and one of 766 00:35:52,779 --> 00:35:51,109 them was holding a small child 767 00:35:55,870 --> 00:35:52,789 and they're all dressed the same 768 00:35:58,509 --> 00:35:55,880 including the child in silvery skin type 769 00:36:01,200 --> 00:35:58,519 one-piece suits and even the boots they 770 00:36:04,210 --> 00:36:01,210 had on seemed in part of the the suit 771 00:36:07,809 --> 00:36:04,220 anyway so they they've come to reassure 772 00:36:13,420 --> 00:36:07,819 her to show her this child who is they 773 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:13,430 alleged her unborn son and and she you 774 00:36:16,269 --> 00:36:15,170 know they wanted her to hold it all she 775 00:36:18,789 --> 00:36:16,279 wanted to hold it can't quite remember 776 00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:18,799 now but first she has to undergo this 777 00:36:24,099 --> 00:36:21,680 detoxification process so this one of 778 00:36:26,229 --> 00:36:24,109 them has like a backpack on it and it 779 00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:26,239 has a spray nozzle and it sprays her 780 00:36:32,229 --> 00:36:29,720 down and she's immediately wet and then 781 00:36:34,779 --> 00:36:32,239 she's immediately all dry so there's 782 00:36:37,089 --> 00:36:34,789 some sort of contamination purification 783 00:36:40,319 --> 00:36:37,099 a decontamination purification process 784 00:36:42,789 --> 00:36:40,329 that she's gone through and anyway so 785 00:36:44,589 --> 00:36:42,799 she's holding the child she feels 786 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:44,599 connected to it 787 00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:47,089 meanwhile her husband walks past and 788 00:36:50,799 --> 00:36:49,910 says look sweetheart this is our son 789 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:50,809 isn't he beautiful 790 00:36:56,859 --> 00:36:52,730 but he just keeps on walking past her as 791 00:37:00,460 --> 00:36:56,869 if he's in a daze anyway so they bought 792 00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:00,470 the child to hurt it to to reassure her 793 00:37:04,749 --> 00:37:02,480 that the child that she's going to have 794 00:37:08,019 --> 00:37:04,759 is going to be okay not to worry there's 795 00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:08,029 nothing wrong with her and and that goes 796 00:37:11,650 --> 00:37:09,529 on for a bit for a while anyway 797 00:37:15,220 --> 00:37:11,660 eventually the child's given back to the 798 00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:15,230 beings and them she watches the silvery 799 00:37:20,890 --> 00:37:17,089 vehicle go back up into the sky and 800 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:20,900 disappear over the treetops anyway the 801 00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:23,210 next thing she's back in the tent seeing 802 00:37:28,839 --> 00:37:24,950 all the boomerang shaped objects going 803 00:37:31,329 --> 00:37:28,849 back into this right light when the last 804 00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:31,339 one entered a very loud noise started in 805 00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:33,710 a husband's happen bed and was pulling 806 00:37:38,499 --> 00:37:35,089 at her to get up and have a look at this 807 00:37:42,370 --> 00:37:38,509 herd of wild horses that he's imagined 808 00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,380 stampeding through the camping area but 809 00:37:48,819 --> 00:37:44,720 she she just says she feels paralyzed 810 00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:48,829 she couldn't move a muscle and before 811 00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:51,529 the noise but the noise just keeps 812 00:37:55,660 --> 00:37:54,079 getting keeps going until eventually she 813 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:55,670 drags herself up to see what was going 814 00:37:58,809 --> 00:37:57,170 on I need to hear her husband saying up 815 00:38:01,690 --> 00:37:58,819 too late you missed it go back to sleep 816 00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:01,700 which she instantly did but anyway 817 00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:04,190 finally getting to the missing pregnancy 818 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:06,079 I just wanted to give you the background 819 00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:08,930 of that particular case the next morning 820 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:11,359 she has a nagging feeling that something 821 00:38:14,980 --> 00:38:12,770 had happened through the night but she 822 00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:14,990 couldn't remember what so she put it 823 00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:17,569 down to one of those dreams that you 824 00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:19,910 have but you can't remember goes and has 825 00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:23,380 a shower returns to her husband and he 826 00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:25,910 says did you hear the racket those 827 00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:27,440 horses made last night when they came 828 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:29,510 stampeding through here because that 829 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:31,730 triggers her memory and she immediately 830 00:38:38,410 --> 00:38:33,530 remembers everything that happened the 831 00:38:42,970 --> 00:38:38,420 night before now five days after that 832 00:38:44,530 --> 00:38:42,980 experience she miscarries has a 833 00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:44,540 miscarriage while she stood on the 834 00:38:49,660 --> 00:38:47,510 holidays but the doctors the doctors 835 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:49,670 couldn't find a fetus they assumed she 836 00:38:54,609 --> 00:38:51,410 had lost it before arriving at the 837 00:38:56,319 --> 00:38:54,619 hospital now it took nearly four hours 838 00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:56,329 to get to the hospital from where they 839 00:38:59,520 --> 00:38:58,250 were so if she'd lost anything it would 840 00:39:03,309 --> 00:38:59,530 have been in the car which it wasn't 841 00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:03,319 anyway when she told them she was nine 842 00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:05,839 weeks pregnant by then they told her she 843 00:39:10,930 --> 00:39:08,079 must be mistaken because the doctor said 844 00:39:13,890 --> 00:39:10,940 you've gone through an actual labor and 845 00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:13,900 with the amount of afterbirth present 846 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:16,910 she would have had to be no less than 14 847 00:39:23,410 --> 00:39:19,010 weeks pregnant which she found 848 00:39:24,849 --> 00:39:23,420 impossible to believe so two months 849 00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:24,859 after that miscarriage she falls 850 00:39:29,980 --> 00:39:27,200 pregnant again gives birth to a son and 851 00:39:32,740 --> 00:39:29,990 who is the exact duplicate from her 852 00:39:36,490 --> 00:39:32,750 description of the child that she had 853 00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:36,500 held during that close encounter that's 854 00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:39,680 very strange but not dissimilar to other 855 00:39:46,420 --> 00:39:42,560 areas that we've investigated we have a 856 00:39:49,630 --> 00:39:46,430 lady here Christa Tilton who has had 857 00:39:52,030 --> 00:39:49,640 missing of fetuses we wrote her story up 858 00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:52,040 along with many others in our sexter 859 00:40:01,390 --> 00:39:55,280 terrestrials the book we just got like 860 00:40:04,690 --> 00:40:01,400 now 350 pages of data on similar 861 00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:04,700 episodes like this so something strange 862 00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:08,240 is going on I mean it seemed I you know 863 00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:10,190 I mean it's hard to believe that there 864 00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:11,680 could be crossbreeding 865 00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:14,390 like that I mean they would have to be 866 00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:16,790 very very closely related to us I would 867 00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:17,990 think in order 868 00:40:25,060 --> 00:40:22,400 to produce of their children well to be 869 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:25,070 honest I could say or a skeptic could 870 00:40:31,390 --> 00:40:28,610 say well that's an assumption because we 871 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:31,400 actually don't really know what they're 872 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:33,650 doing I mean we have people who report 873 00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:35,450 Close Encounters who say that they're 874 00:40:40,330 --> 00:40:38,510 part of a breeding program and I get 875 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:40,340 that and I can see why they would 876 00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:42,530 interpret the information like that and 877 00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:44,510 you've got to remember that when people 878 00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:46,160 have these reports and they and they 879 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:50,240 tell us it you know I always say that 880 00:40:57,940 --> 00:40:52,970 some of these aliens are master mental 881 00:40:59,950 --> 00:40:57,950 manipulators and they can put yeah they 882 00:41:02,920 --> 00:40:59,960 can put information into our mind and 883 00:41:08,890 --> 00:41:02,930 make us think and feel anything in some 884 00:41:10,930 --> 00:41:08,900 cases so you know it's you know maybe 885 00:41:13,090 --> 00:41:10,940 that's going on maybe there's something 886 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:13,100 else I really don't know I just I'm just 887 00:41:18,850 --> 00:41:15,490 can't say a hundred percent either way 888 00:41:24,990 --> 00:41:18,860 now you talk about a case of a missing 889 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:25,000 time of a police trainee yes I do 890 00:41:33,930 --> 00:41:31,490 yes now this was let me see this was 891 00:41:35,710 --> 00:41:33,940 with a gentleman that we interviewed 892 00:41:39,460 --> 00:41:35,720 late last year 893 00:41:43,810 --> 00:41:39,470 and this is again going back some years 894 00:41:46,510 --> 00:41:43,820 all these cases that are really cases 895 00:41:48,849 --> 00:41:46,520 that are full of detail rich with detail 896 00:41:51,970 --> 00:41:48,859 these go back many years we're not 897 00:41:55,630 --> 00:41:51,980 getting those cases these days right but 898 00:41:58,420 --> 00:41:55,640 so this occurred in 1976 and he was a at 899 00:42:00,609 --> 00:41:58,430 the Green Bank military base and that's 900 00:42:03,790 --> 00:42:00,619 not too far from where I am actually 901 00:42:06,820 --> 00:42:03,800 probably about a 15-minute drive anyway 902 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:06,830 in 1976 he was a trainee police officer 903 00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:09,530 training in bush rescue at the Green 904 00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:12,560 Bank area and it's a live training 905 00:42:18,070 --> 00:42:15,520 facility it's about 46 square kilometres 906 00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:18,080 for the Australian Defence Force okay 907 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:22,160 and it's located 25 kilometres south of 908 00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:25,010 Brisbane anyway the trainees at the time 909 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:26,630 they were being trained by an army 910 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:29,450 reserve officer and they were given a 911 00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:30,890 grid map and 912 00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:32,000 all they had to find their way to 913 00:42:37,539 --> 00:42:34,880 another grid in a certain time the 914 00:42:40,059 --> 00:42:37,549 maximum time was 45 minutes that people 915 00:42:42,250 --> 00:42:40,069 had done it in most people did it in 30 916 00:42:45,130 --> 00:42:42,260 anyway the group was divided into three 917 00:42:48,460 --> 00:42:45,140 squads and this guy I'll call his name 918 00:42:51,309 --> 00:42:48,470 Steve his squad made it in near lot of 919 00:42:53,859 --> 00:42:51,319 time but another squad got completely 920 00:42:55,660 --> 00:42:53,869 lost and even though they had a mapping 921 00:42:58,900 --> 00:42:55,670 compasses they went missing for three 922 00:43:01,930 --> 00:42:58,910 hours long enough to trigger a search 923 00:43:04,029 --> 00:43:01,940 for them now Steve was personally 924 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:04,039 involved in the search driving in 925 00:43:08,109 --> 00:43:05,930 all-terrain vehicles looking for the 926 00:43:09,940 --> 00:43:08,119 group and when they visually turned up 927 00:43:12,670 --> 00:43:09,950 they were told that they'd been missing 928 00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:12,680 for three hours and the squad said come 929 00:43:16,329 --> 00:43:14,720 on we've been gone for 25 minutes 930 00:43:20,259 --> 00:43:16,339 because they thought they'd actually 931 00:43:23,410 --> 00:43:20,269 beaten everybody anyway when they were 932 00:43:25,329 --> 00:43:23,420 asked what they were doing they replied 933 00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:25,339 nothing out of the ordinary just go from 934 00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:26,960 point A to point B like we were 935 00:43:33,460 --> 00:43:30,049 instructed when they asked what terrain 936 00:43:35,289 --> 00:43:33,470 they covered they pointed it out they 937 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:35,299 pointed them out but the other squads 938 00:43:40,210 --> 00:43:38,450 had looked for them in those spots but 939 00:43:43,210 --> 00:43:40,220 they couldn't find anyone - they'd 940 00:43:46,410 --> 00:43:43,220 already covered that area anyway as a 941 00:43:49,569 --> 00:43:46,420 result that squad was subsequently 942 00:43:51,099 --> 00:43:49,579 spirited away and the other squad 943 00:43:54,220 --> 00:43:51,109 members weren't allowed to speak to them 944 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:54,230 for a while and eventually they did but 945 00:43:59,170 --> 00:43:57,130 the missing squad gave what Steve 946 00:44:02,319 --> 00:43:59,180 interpreted he said sounded like 947 00:44:04,210 --> 00:44:02,329 scripted replies keeping to their story 948 00:44:05,470 --> 00:44:04,220 he said you can tell when people have 949 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:05,480 been telling you something that they've 950 00:44:11,140 --> 00:44:09,650 been told to tell you anyway when the 951 00:44:13,809 --> 00:44:11,150 squad members were leaving the camp 952 00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:13,819 unidentifiable people turned up wearing 953 00:44:19,509 --> 00:44:16,640 suits so they didn't know what that was 954 00:44:23,259 --> 00:44:19,519 about but anyway some years later in 955 00:44:26,109 --> 00:44:23,269 1985 Steve was in the Army Reserve and 956 00:44:29,259 --> 00:44:26,119 again on the same base and they had a 957 00:44:32,829 --> 00:44:29,269 lot of malfunctioning equipment anything 958 00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,839 from rifles to radios and his own rifle 959 00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,160 would Jam even though he was really 960 00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:36,319 meticulous with it cleaning it stripping 961 00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:37,910 it down all the time as everyone had to 962 00:44:43,650 --> 00:44:40,400 do it was an SLR rifle they all had 963 00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:43,660 those which are an extremely reliable 964 00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:46,510 - a couple of other people had the same 965 00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:50,380 problem with their rifles curiously the 966 00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:52,750 radio operator would report his radio 967 00:44:57,690 --> 00:44:55,270 would just stop working but as soon as 968 00:45:00,240 --> 00:44:57,700 he came out of the upper and the 969 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:00,250 operation his radio would function fully 970 00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:02,890 the battery wasn't drained its 971 00:45:07,740 --> 00:45:06,190 functionality was just suspended and the 972 00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:07,750 same occurred with vehicles where they 973 00:45:13,859 --> 00:45:10,000 would just die and then they would start 974 00:45:15,299 --> 00:45:13,869 again and at times Stephen said he had 975 00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:15,309 trouble with constant with his own 976 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:17,230 concentration and other people did too 977 00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:19,930 they were talking about that and there 978 00:45:26,329 --> 00:45:23,710 was a certain no-go area which was deep 979 00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:26,339 in the base where all this would occur 980 00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:28,510 so there are some really strange things 981 00:45:33,630 --> 00:45:31,390 going on there but a group of a group of 982 00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:33,640 people in the earlier part they had that 983 00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,079 3 hours of missing time that is that is 984 00:45:42,510 --> 00:45:40,480 bizarre as Cheryl we've only got about 985 00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:42,520 three minutes left in the show but a 986 00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:46,270 really quick Jeremy from the Las Vegas 987 00:45:51,809 --> 00:45:48,640 UFO Hunters wants to know if the the 988 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:51,819 number or frequency of UFO sightings 989 00:45:58,829 --> 00:45:54,730 have they increased or decreased since 990 00:46:01,440 --> 00:45:58,839 the recent fires in Australia decreased 991 00:46:04,819 --> 00:46:01,450 but they were they were lied before that 992 00:46:07,319 --> 00:46:04,829 there's not been a lot happening here 993 00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:07,329 for quite some years it's been it's just 994 00:46:12,269 --> 00:46:09,760 gone into that cycle that love cycle 995 00:46:16,799 --> 00:46:12,279 which does happen with this phenomenon 996 00:46:18,990 --> 00:46:16,809 from time to time but there has been 997 00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:19,000 something there were a couple of reports 998 00:46:22,529 --> 00:46:20,950 came in with someone had sent some video 999 00:46:24,809 --> 00:46:22,539 footage in where we thought they could 1000 00:46:28,829 --> 00:46:24,819 it could be some sort of genuine UFO 1001 00:46:31,859 --> 00:46:28,839 that was again north of Brisbane but 1002 00:46:33,329 --> 00:46:31,869 generally everything's pretty quiet all 1003 00:46:35,460 --> 00:46:33,339 right well why don't you let our 1004 00:46:38,789 --> 00:46:35,470 audience know really quick where they 1005 00:46:39,779 --> 00:46:38,799 can find out more about - where websites 1006 00:46:44,819 --> 00:46:39,789 things like that 1007 00:46:47,849 --> 00:46:44,829 sure okay well our website is UFO 1008 00:46:50,490 --> 00:46:47,859 research Queensland but for anyone who's 1009 00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:50,500 interested in particularly in the Tully 1010 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:52,510 case you can go to a YouTube channel 1011 00:46:56,780 --> 00:46:53,890 just search for you for a research 1012 00:47:00,650 --> 00:46:56,790 Queensland YouTube channel and 1013 00:47:03,260 --> 00:47:00,660 you'll find the you'll find a recording 1014 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:03,270 of Albert penny C talking at our 50th 1015 00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,210 anniversary conference in 2006 talking 1016 00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:08,640 all about the Tully case there - we've 1017 00:47:12,830 --> 00:47:11,220 also got a Facebook page again you if I 1018 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:12,840 research Queensland you can go on there 1019 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:14,970 and get the that's why I post all the 1020 00:47:21,530 --> 00:47:18,210 any sort of 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